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It's true Christianity is under attack.

October 4th 2007 04:52
Christianity is the major religion in America, and in the rest of the world also at about 2.1 Billion. Religion is a very important part of my life, and no doubt to every other practicing Christian as well. I can't image one day that I didn't live by the teaching of the Bible, it's a large part of my life no matter where I am, and what I am doing. I pattern my life by it, and so do other christians as well.

It's mind boggling to me is how someone can say they are a Christian, and then don't stand for what the bible teaches, or how can they in church proclaim that they love God, and in Public places they don't want to acknowledge him. That's not a Christian to me that's a hypocrite. These false Christians ,and atheist have declared war on Christianity.


Since the 1960's or even before there has been a steady attack on Christianity. The Devil has sent his agents to do his bidding. Madalyn Murray O'Hair, a militant left wing atheist with close ties to the American Communist Party, filed a lawsuit against the school board of Baltimore. To stop school prayer, her lawsuit was thrown out of the lower courts, but the Supreme Court ruled in her favor. That was the first great attack, and one that Christians should have fought harder to win.

From there we lost our right to have the Ten Commandments posted on government property. Nativity Scenes was then consider Unconstitutional. But Folks if you add a secular figure in with your Nativity Scenes then it is Constitutional.

They also want to take the motto In God We Trust off our money. They also want to control what a preacher preaches in the pulpit, if they don't like what they say they can call it hate speech. Can you believe that, the word of God hate speech?

The Aclu, and the liberal courts have taken up the fight for the devil, and they have went about Killing, Stealing, and Destroying Christianity in America. They don't care that most Americans think that they have went to far in taking religion out of public life.


Large majorities of Americans are in favor of allowing school prayer, keeping under God in the pledge of Allegiance, and allowing Nativity Scenes on Government Properties. Many Americans believe that there is a war on Christianity. 8 out of 10 Americans believe that the courts have gone to far in driving religion our of public life.

The Majority of our leaders claim they are religious, but they don't prove that when it comes to standing up for Christianity. They want to have Seperation of Church and State. How can anyone stand for God one minute, and then go right against his teaching. As I said before HYPOCRITE. Jesus said it best you cannot serve two masters you will love one and hate the other. If you don't stand for God, you are against him.

And futher more the attacks on 9/11 was a attack against Christianity also, they hate our way of life, and have in there minds to destroy all christians that don't convert to their way of living.

So fellow Christians we are under attack from within and without our Country, but take heart we are the winners in the end anyway. If God before you who can be against you.

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Comment by David

October 4th 2007 05:07
Wow.

What a revelation. Christ, the founder of Christianity got crucified and now His religion is under attack?

Comment by Brenton

October 4th 2007 05:19
When I plan to go to war against God, I'll let you know, until then, please don't presume me as a player in your mission to make everyone good or evil.

Seriously. WAYY Too busy with uni ATM to bother going to war against Christianity.

Comment by Louie

October 4th 2007 05:52
Whatever happened to peace...... true Hypocrites in my books are those who use Religion as an excuse for Violence and Aggression.....in any form

I think Terrorists hate FREEDOM more than any particular brand of Religion per se.....



Comment by Norm

October 4th 2007 06:24
Lester,

It's true, punctuation is important.

I can't believe anyone would want to take God's name (God) off the root of all evil (money).

Norm


Comment by Ahmed

October 4th 2007 08:28
oh man, that reads so typical of a 'muslims are under attack' or 'atheists are under attack' article, sheesh.

I think you are under the false notion that you are better than othe rpeople because you are a christian, hence doing something like taking out 'in god we trust' off of money is an attack against christianity, which it isn't.

America was not founded as a christian state otherwise the constituion would have read 'believes in the bible', so if america comes under attack it isn't christianity being attacked, it's America and her population that is under attack. If anyone says 'oh no, I'm the one under attack' then that someone is just being greedy.

I've heard it all, and it all sounds the same, don't think you're so precious because you're a christian, or that becausee they're taking a slogan off of a piece of paper you are suddenly opressed.

I know this won't gel with you, but meh, I have time to kill.

That was the first great attack, and one that Christians should have fought harder to win.

Take a page out of the malasian teaching system and have an opt in system for prayers.




wiat, no,

From there we lost our right to have the Ten Commandments posted on government property.

You're either a satirist or live in a swamp, if it's the latter how the hell did you get access to the internet?

Comment by Ahmed

October 4th 2007 08:29
wiat, no,

From there we lost our right to have the Ten Commandments posted on government property.

You're either a satirist or live in a swamp, if it's the latter how the hell did you get access to the internet?

Comment by katyzzz

October 4th 2007 08:56
You are entitled to defend your faith, just as Muslim's are. I'm really pleased you got this domain.

katyzzz

Comment by Big Cat

October 4th 2007 10:03
Hi Lester,
I see another source of attack on churches. Consider all the competing Bible versions and countless denominations that have exploded the church into ever-increasing pieces, since the first split between Catholic and Orthodox. If the attack is indeed from within, then guess who has so devilishly found expression in the church, despite Christ's aim that it should be one body expressing the Father like Jesus of Nazareth did. You never wrote a wiser thing in "If you don't stand for God, you are against him". So what do you believe are some of the devilish tactics that make Christian church bodies like this?


Comment by Damo

October 4th 2007 12:00
Not sure what this post was meant to say other than it is long and lonely path to salvation.
Some people say that expecting it to be paved with flowers defeats the purpose of sacrifice and penance.

Comment by Ahmed

October 4th 2007 13:59
You are entitled to defend your faith, just as Muslim's are. I'm really pleased you got this domain.

everyone is entitled to that, however lester isn't defending, lester is attacking.

Asking such questions as 'why can't we have the ten commandments hung up in congress?', well why don't we have a crescent hung up in congress too then? And a statue of budah?

I'm all for defending your religion, believing in what you want, however to facilitate such a thing you have to create religously neutral zones (well mostly anyway) where there isn't an overbearing symbol indicating one religion is superior to another. You can have opinions on such amtters but you can't symoblise them as if they are law.

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 5th 2007 01:02
Hey everyone good to hear from all of you.

David point well taken, Jesus said it best, marvel not that the world hates you for it hated me first. The revelation is that it's happen more and more in a country that once held up the Christian beliefs. Believe me when I say if this trend continues in this country, and all of our rights to worship God is taken away, what will happen to the rest of the world. There is no attack on any other religion like there is on Christianity.

Brenton seems like you don't know that you are already at war with God, either you are for him, or against him, you can't serve two master, you will love one, and hate the other. You may be to busy to acknowledge God now, but there is two appointments you will keep. Death, and Judgement, you will not be to busy for either of them.

Louie if everyone followed the teaching of the Bible, and did what it said, and not put their spin on it there would be peace. God is love, and if we don't have love, we don't have God. There has been far to much violence done in the name of religion, but religion is not the way to heaven. Salvation is the only way.

Norm, Money is not the root of all evil, It's the love of money that is the root of all evil. We all have to have money to survive.

Ahmed, having trouble with religion, are you the only one that can have a opinion. No I am not a satirist, and a swamp sounds pretty good right about now it's very dry here. I do feel that if you would check very close on how our founding fathers felt about religion you will find that they were not against it, and in times of trouble the turned to God for answers. I have high speed internet, and it comes thru this little wire that is connected to back of my computer. But that has nothing do with the topic does it. It must upset you when others use free speech, when you don't like what they say.

Katyzzz Thank you for your kind words. I don't feel that I am better than anyone else, or am I trying to hurt anyone. That would not be Christ like, he came to save not destroy. If I offended anyone with the statement about 9/11, and the ones that committed the attack. I am not sorry, because any religion that promotes hate and murder is just plain wrong. God is love, not hate.

Big Cat The Bible says, how can two walk together lest they agree they just stopped agreeing with God. Instead of following the Bible they follow their own way, and have left off following God. Also where envy and strife is there is confusion, and every evil work, so people get something against each other and that gives the devil place to work. The Christian Church have scattered, when they need to come together.

Damo, The path to salvation is never lonely, because Jesus said I will never leave you nor forsake you I will go with you even unto the end of the world. It may not be pave with flowers, but the end of it is paved with Gold.

God Bless you all

Comment by Brenton

October 5th 2007 01:22
Seriously, not at war at all. I'm like Pilger, I'm just the jourenalist trying to make sense of it all.

I honestly dont have issue with God, Christianity, Religion, ideology, beleif etc etc. It just irritates me when somebody slags me off as fighting against God. I just try to do the right thing regardless.

Comment by Norm

October 5th 2007 02:03

Comment by Ahmed

October 5th 2007 02:16
Lester, anyone can have an opinion, but an opinion that you are superior to another person because of religion is something I personally don't take too kindly to.

Claiming christianity is under attack because, of all things, the ten commandments were not hung up in congress is ridiculous. It isn't because 'christianity is under attack' (which, like Islam isn't anyway, but I'm playing ball) it's because it makes nothing but sense.

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 5th 2007 03:26
Christianity is under attack by Liberals, athiest, and Islam. Who carried out the terror attacks on 9/11 hint it wasn't Christians. I am a christian and if I didn't feel my religion was the right one I would have no bussiness practicing it. You have a right to feel your religion is the right one for you as well. I am not fighting other faiths, that's not my intent. I am sure that muslims have there symbols that they feel they should have a right to as well, and they do ask for their rights.

Comment by Ahmed

October 5th 2007 03:49
You're not attacking other faiths yet you wish to have the ten commandments hung up on congress walls? Is that not a direct attack at other faiths, that suddenly christianity is the religion to choose?

Furthermore, it is downright selfish and arrogant of you to claim Christianity was attacked on 9/11, you do realize it wasn't just christians who died. there were atheists, liberals, muslims and many other people who actually died.

You're clouded in your own bullshitty world where christianity is the only great religion and everyone should know it. You claim otherwise but thats all you do, you don't even try to hide it.

'It's an attack that we can't have prayers in public schools', why? Come on, why? It's a god damn public school, why should there be christian prayers in a school that doesn't take a bias to any religion? It's an attack if a public school has exclusively christian prayers or muslim prayers. Thats an attack.

Welcome to orble anyway, you're not much worse than a certain someone else, but at least you're not smart enough to veil your whacked out views which provides for more laughts from my end.

Comment by KylieW

October 5th 2007 04:20
I for one definitely think that religion and public education should be kept separate.

Too much religious influence and suddenly there's no studying evolution in science classes.

And I think that religion should be kept out of public life. It's a persons personal viewpoint/faith. And not everyone shares it. So why should it be foisted on those who don't? I have no problem with people who want to practice their religion, no matter what faith they are. But I don't need anyone ramming their religion down my throat. It's just not for me.

Kylie




Comment by Damo

October 5th 2007 04:56
I just love the 'everything or nothing' mentality.

With us or against us.

Perhaps we should put all the christian churches under a single leadership to make the fight easier.





Comment by Lester Caudill

October 5th 2007 11:33
Ahmed
Look I don't like the profanity that you use, you have a right to think that I am not smart, and I have a right to think that you are lacking common sense. I think you are ignorant to what this country was founded on.

Yes it was on Christian values. Yes Christianity was the religion that our fathers practiced. They thought so much of Christianity that the Congress bought bibles for the schools, and Congress opens their sessions with a Prayer. I am not smart, well who is irgnorant it's not me.

Why don't you spent some time finding out what America, and then you will know what you are talking about.

I don't hide my views, and I am not ashamed of them either. They may seem wacked out to you, but here is a revelation for you, I wouldn't touch your view with a ten foot pole.

Kylie
I don't want to force any one to follow religion, religion will not get you to heaven, only salvation will do that. Salvation is a choice, not a requirement, you must choose for youself.

I don't know how anyone can honestly leave a part of themselve out of public life. Your faith is a part of you it's what leads you in your everyday life. To seperate that part of yourself would make you half a person. I am not talking about the religion that promotes hate, or harm to others.

Why do people feel that faith is wrong when it promotes love,forgiveness, and hope.

Damo
All Christian Churches are already under one leader, his name is Jesus Christ.

Comment by Ahmed

October 5th 2007 11:56
I wouldn't touch your view with a ten foot pole.

Yet you want to go and enforce prayers in public schools and hang up the ten commandments in congress.

Thats what I call 'attacking', not just me, but everyone who is not a christian.

America was not founded on christianity, put simply, if it was there would be a direct reference to it in the constituion, of which none exist. The founding fathers themselves didn't want to tie the constituion down to any one group or religion which is why they didn't specify religous belief in the document your country is supposed to bebuilt on.

Throw in the fact the founding fathers also happened to be slave owners and your idea that 'well they were christians' kind of sounds shallow, doesn't matter what they called themselves or what they did because it isn't them the country is founded on.

Otherwise slave ownership would still be alive today. Unless of course you'd like to argue that Christian values make room for slavery and it was another liberal conspiracy that ended up with the amendment to the constituion to ban slavery.

Comment by Ahmed

October 5th 2007 12:09
“The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”

You can be a satanist and the president of the united states. If the founding fathers really wanted to create a christian state they would have specifically made sure the leaders of this nation would be christian.

Comment by Lester Caudill

October 5th 2007 21:13
What do they lay their hand on when the affirm that they will uphold the consitution of the United States of America, it's the Bible. Why don't you run for president and we will see how many votes a satanist gets.

I don't want to force any one to Pray, but give the ones that wish to the right if they choose. I don't know about slavery I wasn't alive back then, but in some parts of the world it still is going on.

Comment by Damo

October 6th 2007 02:04
I meant a singles visible head like a Pope or something.

Comment by Julie Vaux

October 6th 2007 07:47
Try to remember a certain verse:

Render to Caesar the things that are Caesars and to god etc?

There are many good reasons for the separation of Church and State.

As for the Founding Fathers being Orthodox Protestant Christians many of them were 18th Enlightenment Deists!

The attitude that America is Christian must really excite other Americans ...like the Amerinds who were labelled pagan savages ... and I'm sure Canadans and Mexicos and other residents on the North American continent are impressed by the problems some US citizens seem to have with geography!

Why do we have to become US NEoCon Protestants WASP clones? Cultural and religious diversity can be a good thing!


Comment by Lester Caudill

October 6th 2007 21:23
Julie
Seems to me that caesar has it all, and no one wants to give unto God. America is the envy of Canada, and Mexico. Why should America care what anyone thinks, there is no such clause that states, seperation of church and state in the consitution.

Just to get a feel of how our Founding Fathers felt about religion you should read Washington's Thanksgiving Day Proclamation.

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